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obama is preferring a $250,000 threshold, but in the process of trying to hammer out the deal, it is raised to $400,000 or $500,0 $500,000, and the base is going to be angry about that, and that is offset by satisfaction that some of the entitlement reforms that the president had signed off on earlier such as changing the structure for social security will not likely be in this deal, and obviously, everything remains to be seen, and the estate tax is a big sticking point, because obama wants to see it go up, and the senate republicans will insist that it stay at the current rate. >> thank you, robert costa and sam stein. we will be back in a moment. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> welcome back to hardball. what will a deal look like if there is one? and who is going to wind up giving up more on the tax cuts for wealthy americans? harry reid insists $250,000 is a threshold, but it may not hold. joining me now is josh green of bloomberg business week. josh, for the markets, for the business community, whether it is $250,000 and i know sit is a big deal for the politicia
obama is preferring a $250,000 threshold, but in the process of trying to hammer out the deal, it is raised to $400,000 or $500,0 $500,000, and the base is going to be angry about that, and that is offset by satisfaction that some of the entitlement reforms that the president had signed off on earlier such as changing the structure for social security will not likely be in this deal, and obviously, everything remains to be seen, and the estate tax is a big sticking point, because obama wants to...
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that president obama offered him then. mr. boehner wants another bite at that 2011 deal, because back then, the president was offering to stop at $800 billion in new taxes. my prediction here right now is that in a few weeks or a few months, republicans are going to wish they could go back to 2012, right now, and get the deal president obama offered them a week ago, which only raised about $1.2 trillion in taxes. because here's what i think is going to happen now. if we get a small deal before we go over the fiscal cliff, either because harry reid and mitch mcconnell come to a deal in the senate, or because democrats jam the republicans in congress, it's mostly going to be about extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class, which will mean letting them expire for the rich. that will net somewhere around $600 billion in new tax revenue. the white house will pocket that. they will have got in three quarters of what they wanted last year, before even the negotiations had really kicked off. then we're going to go over the
that president obama offered him then. mr. boehner wants another bite at that 2011 deal, because back then, the president was offering to stop at $800 billion in new taxes. my prediction here right now is that in a few weeks or a few months, republicans are going to wish they could go back to 2012, right now, and get the deal president obama offered them a week ago, which only raised about $1.2 trillion in taxes. because here's what i think is going to happen now. if we get a small deal before...
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the obsession, getting a deal at the very last minute. others kept saying well, you just watch, i know it looks bad now but if you wait until the stroke of midnight, we'll be there. indeed we are a, but i think th rational people say why is this that we do this at 11:59, and have terrible consequences. >> all right, ezra klein, stand by if you will. let's bring in "huffington post" ryan grim, i know you were just over joyed hearing this. but after all of this back and forth for so long, it is coming down literally to midnight. >> sure, and ezra is right. that is exactly when we would have expected it. either right at midnight or -- that is how they get things done. and the reason they do that, is because what they're trying to do is broadly unpopular. people don't support austerity. there is a certain type of industrial sector that like s austerity, but that is about it. so in order to inflict it on the people, so to speak, they have to create these artificial deadlines, saying if we don't hurt you a little bit right now then we'll have t
the obsession, getting a deal at the very last minute. others kept saying well, you just watch, i know it looks bad now but if you wait until the stroke of midnight, we'll be there. indeed we are a, but i think th rational people say why is this that we do this at 11:59, and have terrible consequences. >> all right, ezra klein, stand by if you will. let's bring in "huffington post" ryan grim, i know you were just over joyed hearing this. but after all of this back and forth for...
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this deal. he says it's not good enough in part because the tax rates are on those who are making $400,000 or more, $450,000 or more if they're couples, and not on those who make $250,000 or more. that is the level that president obama campaigned on. he said folks who make $250,000 or more should pay more in taxes. richard trumka expressing concern tonight that this will ultimately wind up taking a larger cut into spending than democrats will be comfortable with. so that is some of the criticism on the left. i imagine vice president biden have l have to answer some questions about that when he heads over to the hill. but as kelly mentioned, he has been one of the key negotiators in this entire process. remember, on saturday, milissa, these negotiations had all but stalled. and that is the point at which minority leader mcconnell picked up the phone, called biden, asked him to engage in these negotiations. he did. he is of course a veteran of the senate. few people understand how the inner works
this deal. he says it's not good enough in part because the tax rates are on those who are making $400,000 or more, $450,000 or more if they're couples, and not on those who make $250,000 or more. that is the level that president obama campaigned on. he said folks who make $250,000 or more should pay more in taxes. richard trumka expressing concern tonight that this will ultimately wind up taking a larger cut into spending than democrats will be comfortable with. so that is some of the...
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that would extend middle-class tax cut, deal with spending cuts. it's a basic plan that the president is calling for. something similar has already passed so the white house feels confident that what the president is calling for could again pass through the senate and get through the house. in order for that to happen, richard, that would involve every single democrat in the house voting for it as well as about 30 republicans. so the question is could they actually get that many republicans to vote for this pack am that the president is calling for. but politically what he is doing is essentially saying this is the plan i'm putting forth, let's get it through the senate and if it fails, it will fail through the senate house, letting republicans own that failure. putting it in a box. president obama giving the lawmakers here two options. one, to come up with their own alternative proposal. of course, that's something senate majority leader harry reid will work on. if not, he'll say put my plan to basic up or down vote. richard? >> kristen, i didn't
that would extend middle-class tax cut, deal with spending cuts. it's a basic plan that the president is calling for. something similar has already passed so the white house feels confident that what the president is calling for could again pass through the senate and get through the house. in order for that to happen, richard, that would involve every single democrat in the house voting for it as well as about 30 republicans. so the question is could they actually get that many republicans to...
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whether it's a big deal or a small deal, president obama will he have something to sign in time? moments ago i spoke with democratic congressman elijah cummings. listen to what he had to say about the standstill. >> there is a sense of urgency. the problem is that we've got a group of tea party folk over in the house who basically has pretty much dictated what mr. boehner can agree to. boehner, who's a good guy who wants to make a deal, he really wants to make a deal, but he can't. >> all right. head to capitol hill. there's mike viqueira standing by for us. you know something else that representative cummings said. i just said you're standing by. it seems like even when they come back to d.c. they're going to be standing by. they don't seem to have much to do in the house right now. >> reporter: that's absolutely right. don't have anything to do in the house. for now they don't have anything to do in the senate, t.j. that's the thing. harry reid, mitch mcconnell, the two democratic and republican leaders respectively in the senate got back from that big white house pow wow yeste
whether it's a big deal or a small deal, president obama will he have something to sign in time? moments ago i spoke with democratic congressman elijah cummings. listen to what he had to say about the standstill. >> there is a sense of urgency. the problem is that we've got a group of tea party folk over in the house who basically has pretty much dictated what mr. boehner can agree to. boehner, who's a good guy who wants to make a deal, he really wants to make a deal, but he can't....
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they'll remember barack obama. is the president ready to lead and work with boehner on something in which he can deliver, a coalition of republicans and democrats? >> dan, it's true, you could get a deal today by saying the threshold's $1 million, and what do you have? >> or $550,000. >> you have complete junk. you'd wreck the country, then. >> you think what's going to country less than what happen ifs we go over the cliff? >> yes, absolutely. because if you give up revenues for the next decade the way you're talking about, you would wreck the budget for a decade. >> robert, do you see what you've done? seriously. >> i mean, but let's be serious here. you know, the republicans -- speaker boehner -- the reason people aren't going to remember speaker boehner in history is because speaker boehner is unwilling and incapable to get a deal. he simply cannot get this done. he cannot get this done. he cannot get this done within his own caucus. he cannot get a majority of the majority to agree on a plan so that he can eve
they'll remember barack obama. is the president ready to lead and work with boehner on something in which he can deliver, a coalition of republicans and democrats? >> dan, it's true, you could get a deal today by saying the threshold's $1 million, and what do you have? >> or $550,000. >> you have complete junk. you'd wreck the country, then. >> you think what's going to country less than what happen ifs we go over the cliff? >> yes, absolutely. because if you give...
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deal. more narrow issues are still dividing them. they've maid a lot of progress. they're just not there yet. milissa? >> i'm glad you just described that to us all about the mood in the senate tonight. correct me if i'm wrong, it almost sounds hopeful there. >> is a sense it's worth staying here and they're looking at these details. at the same time people are tired there are some frustrations there is a sense they could have gotten this done sooner. you hear that plenty. but those who have been at the table and looking at this do see compromise that has happened on both sides. you have republicans and democrats who made big compromises on taxes. the president moving up from his $250,000 threshold to 400 and 450 for individuals and couples. and republicans who wanted to see no tax increases for any level did agree, at least at this stage, that they would support tax increases. i say at this stage because this agreement should it happen then has to be voted on of course by the full senate a
deal. more narrow issues are still dividing them. they've maid a lot of progress. they're just not there yet. milissa? >> i'm glad you just described that to us all about the mood in the senate tonight. correct me if i'm wrong, it almost sounds hopeful there. >> is a sense it's worth staying here and they're looking at these details. at the same time people are tired there are some frustrations there is a sense they could have gotten this done sooner. you hear that plenty. but those...
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as a practical matter, that is how these deals come together each of the last three years of the obama administration, on the budget, on deficit, on tax cuts years ago. they came together before christmas. it's hard to see how this works out at this point, to tell you the truth. there is a conference call at 2:30 among house republicans trying to decide what to do. we expect the leadership to let the rank and file know what their plans are. the speaker is not in washington. we understand he is in ohio of his home state. the president has landed here back at the white house in washington. it's unclear exactly where they go from here. essentially what john boehner is saying, you go first, harry reid. harry reid is trying to jam mitch mcconnell into allowing this vote to go forward without the 60-vote threshold, something that's necessary for virtually every vote here in the senate and mitch mcconnell says it's time for president obama to lead. the threshold question is, can something pass the house of representatives? can john boehner put something on the floor that needs the majority of
as a practical matter, that is how these deals come together each of the last three years of the obama administration, on the budget, on deficit, on tax cuts years ago. they came together before christmas. it's hard to see how this works out at this point, to tell you the truth. there is a conference call at 2:30 among house republicans trying to decide what to do. we expect the leadership to let the rank and file know what their plans are. the speaker is not in washington. we understand he is...
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leaders a smaller deal to avert the so-called fiscal cliff behind closed doors at the white house. i want to bring in white house correspondent kristen welker. >> reporter: i'm told pelosi and boehner left to come to the white house. in terms of the smaller deal, we have heard it would include a provision to extend the bush 'ra tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less and let them expire for those more than $250,000 and something that president obama has been calling for for a long time. it would also extend unemployment insurance benefits and stave off some of those deep spending cut that is are set to go in to effect and essentially mirrors what president obama outlined when he addressed the nation before leaving for the what ryan holiday. white house officials being very tight lipped of what specifically the president is going to do and will not confirm to put this smaller deal on the table so i think we're going to have to wait until the meeting wraps up for the specifics but speaking to republican aides with the house who say that this still rests with the senate, that repub
leaders a smaller deal to avert the so-called fiscal cliff behind closed doors at the white house. i want to bring in white house correspondent kristen welker. >> reporter: i'm told pelosi and boehner left to come to the white house. in terms of the smaller deal, we have heard it would include a provision to extend the bush 'ra tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less and let them expire for those more than $250,000 and something that president obama has been calling for for a long...
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leaders are scrambling for a last minute deal. we have 35 hours and counting. here is more of president obama talking about the overall situation. >> what congress needs to do is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said was that we should keep taxes where they were for 98% of americans, 97% of small businesses. but, if we are serious about deficit reduction, make sure the wealthy are paying more and combine it with spending cuts and put the economy on a long term trajectory of growth. over the next 48 hours, my hope is people recognize that regardless of partisan differences, our priority has to be to make sure taxes on middle class families do not go up. that would hurt our economy badly. at a certain point, it is very important for republicans in congress to say we understand we are not going to get 100%. we are willing to compromise in a serious way to solve problems. >> give you the live picture. you are seeing the majority leader, harry reid. >> they wil
leaders are scrambling for a last minute deal. we have 35 hours and counting. here is more of president obama talking about the overall situation. >> what congress needs to do is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said was that we should keep taxes where they were for 98% of americans, 97% of small businesses. but, if we are serious about deficit reduction, make sure the wealthy are...
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prior to the president's statement, the gloomy outlook for a deal was evident on wall street. the dow fail 158 points or 1.2% to settle at 12,938. fifth straight day of decline on the street. i would like to bring in david nakamura of "the washington post" and david jackson of "usa today." how conscious are our leaders in d.c. of the ripple effect this could have and how conscious are consumers of what might be about to hit them? >> well, the white house is very conscious of it it. they may have the political advantage of this deal, but the fiscal cliff could tip the country back into a recession. consumers are worried they'll start to pick up on the news and once it hits their paychecks they'll definitely feel it. >> do you think the consumers are paying as close attention as we'd like to think that they are. i think they are even though it's holiday time and going back to businesses and i was at the white house when president obama had a series of businesses with small business and big business owners and all of them had the same message. we want consumer confidence to remai
prior to the president's statement, the gloomy outlook for a deal was evident on wall street. the dow fail 158 points or 1.2% to settle at 12,938. fifth straight day of decline on the street. i would like to bring in david nakamura of "the washington post" and david jackson of "usa today." how conscious are our leaders in d.c. of the ripple effect this could have and how conscious are consumers of what might be about to hit them? >> well, the white house is very...
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a week ago we were closer than we had seen before on a particular deal. john boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concession and saying that that should be $400,000 and have fixes to social security on costs of living adjustments on that. what ended up happening? john boehner retreated their plan b that mike viquiera was talking about that was unable to pass and now we are in the stalemate we are in now. we were closer than before. >> you touch on a good point. that's lost now in the media. we are going-over the cliff. last week they are $450 billion away from a deal. that's less than 1% of the federal spending over the next decade. in d.c. terms, 400 billion seems like a lot. that's a drop in the bucket in d.c. terms. it's amazing that small of a number killed a deal. >> if you are buying a house or a car and one person said look, i'm going at $1 billion. usually split the difference and do the deal. this time around, that didn't happen. neither was hoping for this.
a week ago we were closer than we had seen before on a particular deal. john boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concession and saying that that should be $400,000 and have fixes to social security on costs of living adjustments on that. what ended up happening? john boehner retreated their plan b that mike viquiera was talking about that was unable to pass and now we are in the stalemate we are in now....
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so mitch mcconnell, speaker john boehner, they have to deal with the fact that president obama was reelected to raise taxes on the top 2% and speaker boehner and the republicans can't get their hands around their caucus, then the blame is on them. >> jarret, what do you think about all of this? you deal with the policy. you deal with the numbers. there has been some offers from the president, even to the chagrin of hi base. how do you make where we are? >> well, listening to the three of you and your introduction, i'm just struck a real low point in american politics over a period when there's been pretty good kovcompetition for the low of the low points. i'm also really kind of moved by the really political malpractice going on. we have an economic recovery on going. >> by the way, you don't really hear people talking about the unemployment rate. you're working to build on the momentum of this recovery. help them prove it so american households can get ahead on their own. through working hard. not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting the
so mitch mcconnell, speaker john boehner, they have to deal with the fact that president obama was reelected to raise taxes on the top 2% and speaker boehner and the republicans can't get their hands around their caucus, then the blame is on them. >> jarret, what do you think about all of this? you deal with the policy. you deal with the numbers. there has been some offers from the president, even to the chagrin of hi base. how do you make where we are? >> well, listening to the...
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president obama will be watching with the rest of country for a deal to be hammered out. he thinks republican leaders need to bend. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> i'm joined by congresswoman barbara lee a democrat from california. good to see you. good morning. >> good to see you. glad to be with you. >> let me give you the republican perspective. it is that some indications they are willing to give on taxes whether 400 or 450,000, that yesterday they floated this idea of changing social security. they've backed off on that. they apparently are willing to give on some of these estate taxes. the democrats are willing to give on some of the estate taxes. but what the republicans want is they say that this deal that's being offered looks like it actually p
president obama will be watching with the rest of country for a deal to be hammered out. he thinks republican leaders need to bend. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >>...
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and president obama's message to his home state on marriage equality. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is delicious. we're having such a great year on the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. now is the perfect time to visit anyone of our states. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride, go fishing or just lay in the sun. we've got coastline to explore and wildlife to photograph. and there's world class dining with our world famous seafood. so for a great vacation this year, come to the gulf. its all fabulous but i give florida the edge. right after mississippi. you mean alabama. say louisiana or there's no dessert. this invitation is brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home. >>> at some point the nego
and president obama's message to his home state on marriage equality. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is delicious. we're having such a great year on the gulf, we've decided to put aside our...
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they could have taken a deal, could have take an deal in the summer of 2011 which would have been more favorable to them. they didn't do either. >> if obama is coming out and from what we're hearing he's not making a real offer. he's coming out with $250,000 staying with what he had before christmas. he's playing hardball. if he came out and was talking about a $40,000 tlshg hold, we could say these parties may be close to promise but i don't see that right now. >> we're getting breaking news that the president will make a statement at 5:45 in the briefing room so we'll stay tuned for that. robert, help me out here. how can boehner stay as speaker when it seems like his knees get cut out from him every day? >> is there some dissension within the house republican ranks, richard? sure. to really challenge boehner, you have to have a challenger and there are a lot of people in the house republican conference who are frustrated with the speaker, but they're not willing to run against him. you have big names like eric cantor and kevin mccarthy, number two and three, they're not even making
they could have taken a deal, could have take an deal in the summer of 2011 which would have been more favorable to them. they didn't do either. >> if obama is coming out and from what we're hearing he's not making a real offer. he's coming out with $250,000 staying with what he had before christmas. he's playing hardball. if he came out and was talking about a $40,000 tlshg hold, we could say these parties may be close to promise but i don't see that right now. >> we're getting...
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president obama put a deal on the table that made significant concessions to the republicans. if they had bought that deal, we would have bought about ten years of relative fiscal stability. i think we can still get around to making a reasonable deal after the deal. but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the government work. >> always great to talk to you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from "meet the press." that's coming up, too. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference.
president obama put a deal on the table that made significant concessions to the republicans. if they had bought that deal, we would have bought about ten years of relative fiscal stability. i think we can still get around to making a reasonable deal after the deal. but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the...
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this morning in an exclusive interview president obama said compromise will be a key to making a deal. >> it is very important for republicans in congress to be willing to say we understand we are not going to get 100%. we are willing to compromise in a serious way. >> senate leaders hoped to send a plan right about now. the talks have broken down. listen to what senate leader said on the floor a short while ago. >> now, i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. i think we all know we are running out of time. this is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. i am interested in getting a result here. >> we have been trying to come up with some counteroffer to my friends' proposal. we have been unable to do that. i had have had a conversation with the president and that this stage we are not able to make a counteroffer. >> what happens now? with us is cello o'donnell and kristen welker. >> we are sort of at a pause point. if you are looking at the tone of these lead
this morning in an exclusive interview president obama said compromise will be a key to making a deal. >> it is very important for republicans in congress to be willing to say we understand we are not going to get 100%. we are willing to compromise in a serious way. >> senate leaders hoped to send a plan right about now. the talks have broken down. listen to what senate leader said on the floor a short while ago. >> now, i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. i think we...
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president obama has a $4 trillion deal on the table that would be balanced in terms of increasing the tax rates on the wealthiest americans. significant spending cuts and has even proposed more -- several hundred billion in entitlement savings. if we can come together and put together a balanced agreement, then we can avoid this. and move on to focusing on the job creation and getting the economy turned around that we should all be working together towards. >> but whatever happens, would it be fair to say that you've got much bigger fish to fry, so to speak, in the new year? i mean, it's not going to be the grand bargain. there's going to be a lot of talk of entitlements, we were talking to tom cole and he's saying democrats just don't want to do what they need to do about cutting back spending. we've got to stop spending. >> my friend tom cole knows that's simply not true. we have $4 trillion deal that includes billions of dollars in spending cuts on the table from president obama that democrats have been willing and ready to support. but look at what tom cole also said. look what he
president obama has a $4 trillion deal on the table that would be balanced in terms of increasing the tax rates on the wealthiest americans. significant spending cuts and has even proposed more -- several hundred billion in entitlement savings. if we can come together and put together a balanced agreement, then we can avoid this. and move on to focusing on the job creation and getting the economy turned around that we should all be working together towards. >> but whatever happens, would...
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if he starts talking about solutions and this is important for the country, maybe a deal is in the works. >> harry reid took to the floor with strong words, we know mcconnell will do the same thing. >> we are, mcconned said our number one goal is to defeat president obama. in november the american people said very clearly they want people to work it. this is proving that at least when it comes to congressional republicans, the answer is know. great to see all three of you, thank you. >>> president george h.w. wish takes a turn for the worse, but doctors are still optimistic. >>> then hundreds of teachers sign up for free gun training in utah, and arizona's attorney general wants to arm school employees. the reverend al sharpton will join me to talk about his efforts to curb gun violence. should teachers be allowed to carry concealed weapons at school? tweet me or find me on facebook. sometimes what we suffer from is bigger than we think ... like the flu. with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differ
if he starts talking about solutions and this is important for the country, maybe a deal is in the works. >> harry reid took to the floor with strong words, we know mcconnell will do the same thing. >> we are, mcconned said our number one goal is to defeat president obama. in november the american people said very clearly they want people to work it. this is proving that at least when it comes to congressional republicans, the answer is know. great to see all three of you, thank...
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what can you tell us about this new fiscal cliff deal that president obama has sent over to senator leaders? >> well, the power of social media to get the word out. gop sources say in the conversation with the president, he indicated that he does have a bill he would like to bring forward to the hill today. they have not seen that. it would be a package to deal with averting the fiscal cliff. we can infer from that with what the president said before he went to the family vacation in hawaii that he wanted something that would be scaled down, not a massive grand bargain that would protect the current tax rate for people who earned less than $250,000 a year or perhaps a different figure if they reached that. but trying to protect the middle class. so officials here haven't seen it yet, but this is kind of today's volley in what has been this ongoing battle. house speaker john boehner has been saying the president must act and it appears the president is prepared to do that with another offer. and senate democrats would presumably be right on board with that. hopefully we will get details some
what can you tell us about this new fiscal cliff deal that president obama has sent over to senator leaders? >> well, the power of social media to get the word out. gop sources say in the conversation with the president, he indicated that he does have a bill he would like to bring forward to the hill today. they have not seen that. it would be a package to deal with averting the fiscal cliff. we can infer from that with what the president said before he went to the family vacation in...
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why is it that republicans are so bitterly opposed to president obama? is it his race? is it his youth? is it his party? what is it that has aroused such deep and bitter suspicion and resistance to this man? >> well, i think it's some of all of the above. it's also that president obama came into office at a time when we desperately needed government, an active government. remember, the economy was going off a cliff. a real cliff. and not a symbolic fiscal cliff. i mean, but it was a real economic cliff, over which we had no control at all. he took the reins and prevented another great depression. we had a very, very deep recession and we are still in the gravitational pull of that deep recession, but a lot of conservative republicans, many of whom had been elected in 2010, they looked at what president obama had done with regard to the stimulus package, and everything else, and they said, this is simply too much government. we hate government, we don't want government. and we were elected on a very ideological platform of shrinking the federal government. of kind of an
why is it that republicans are so bitterly opposed to president obama? is it his race? is it his youth? is it his party? what is it that has aroused such deep and bitter suspicion and resistance to this man? >> well, i think it's some of all of the above. it's also that president obama came into office at a time when we desperately needed government, an active government. remember, the economy was going off a cliff. a real cliff. and not a symbolic fiscal cliff. i mean, but it was a real...
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. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appea
. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i...
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breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesses that depend on family spending. fortunately, congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> it comes after speaker boehner left the white house. he didn't say anything to reporters and neither did anyone else who was seen leaving the meeting. here's what we do know. in just four days, taxes will go up on millions. and millions more will have their vital unemployment benefits run out. that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators
breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesses that depend on family spending. fortunately, congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle...
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so what obama is saying, if harry reid and mcconnell do not get a deal, well, that means that a deal would signify that it is filibuster proof. they'd have a super majority. democrats have the majority so you would think why don't they just vote together, pass it and move on to the house, but the dare is that obama's saying do you really want to show to all of america, republican senators that you're going filibuster a bill and everybody's taxes will go up? how do you explain that when there are -- when there is a majority around who can fas? that's a pretty interesting dare that obama put out there. >> thank you, it's like a little school house rock on saturday afternoon here on msnbc. perry, if mitch mcconnell does make a deal, how does he sell that deal in kentucky and the reddest of red states, mind you? >> i think he can and the reason is, like i said, i think any deal he signs on to will be a deal 100, 120 house republicans will sign to. he's not going sign a deal by himself and he'll sign a deal that's acceptable to some conservatives and mitch mock connell has a huge amount o
so what obama is saying, if harry reid and mcconnell do not get a deal, well, that means that a deal would signify that it is filibuster proof. they'd have a super majority. democrats have the majority so you would think why don't they just vote together, pass it and move on to the house, but the dare is that obama's saying do you really want to show to all of america, republican senators that you're going filibuster a bill and everybody's taxes will go up? how do you explain that when there...
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, something even president obama commented upon himself on monday. >> one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second. >> and joining us now from capitol hill, democratic congresswoman debby wassermann schultz of florida who also serves as the dnc chair. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, mara. great to be with you. happy new year. >> in about an hour your conference meets on this bill. in attendance will be vice president joe biden. is it going to be difficult to sell your party on this deal? >> well, i think that we're going to come together in about an hour as a democratic caucus and hear the vice president out. there are a lot of good things in this bill that make sense and that i think it will ultimately earn the overwhelming majority of house democratic votes. we made sure that as we committed throughout this last campaign that we would not allow taxes to increase on 98% of americans that's in this deal. we made sure that we pushed off a really
, something even president obama commented upon himself on monday. >> one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second. >> and joining us now from capitol hill, democratic congresswoman debby wassermann schultz of florida who also serves as the dnc chair. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, mara. great to be with you. happy new year. >> in...
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in the last-ditch effort to reach a deal. is it too late for a grand bargain? we'll talk with new york congressman meeks about that. >>> plus, while school kids take a much-needed holiday break, there are certain officials in some states discussing arming our teachers to prevent a tragedy like sandy hook. could we see more teachers taking up arms in the new year? >>> scrambling to fill the massachusetts senate seat. do they have a star to take on scott brown in a special election? i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. ♪ many hot dogs are within you. try pepto-bismol to-go, it's the power of pepto, but it fits in your pocket. now tell the world daniel... of pepto-bismol to-go. of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪
in the last-ditch effort to reach a deal. is it too late for a grand bargain? we'll talk with new york congressman meeks about that. >>> plus, while school kids take a much-needed holiday break, there are certain officials in some states discussing arming our teachers to prevent a tragedy like sandy hook. could we see more teachers taking up arms in the new year? >>> scrambling to fill the massachusetts senate seat. do they have a star to take on scott brown in a special...
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get this basic deal done that he's calling for. richard, one of the things that he said is that this is not how the american people do business. he said ordinary folks do their jobs. they need deadlines. and the fact that the lawmakers can't do it is boggling to many of them. so the president really trying to ramp up public pressure. this is something that we have seen him do in the past. a tactic that he has taken in the past to really try to get the public on his side to put the pressure on house republicans. >> kristen, thank you for all of your work tonight. >> joined now by joy reed and clarence page. let's just take a listen to what kristen was talking about. let's roll the tape. >> the president seemed to be >> the president seemed to be much more comfortable today saying enough is enough. >> it did. he sounded like a man who knows he holds if not all the cards, a lot of them. he has the advantage here, the polls indicate, as with bill clinton and this showdown with newt gingrich. the public tends to blame republicans when t
get this basic deal done that he's calling for. richard, one of the things that he said is that this is not how the american people do business. he said ordinary folks do their jobs. they need deadlines. and the fact that the lawmakers can't do it is boggling to many of them. so the president really trying to ramp up public pressure. this is something that we have seen him do in the past. a tactic that he has taken in the past to really try to get the public on his side to put the pressure on...
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coming up, are we close to a deal? president obama will speak in about 30 minutes. we'll have it live. also joining us delaware senator chris kuhns, jack kingston and maryland democratic congressman elijah cummings talking about the cliff and the deal, maybe. we're also live at new york's presbyterian hospital with the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. andrea mitchell reports is next. we can afford to take an extra trip this year. first boston... then san francisco. hotwire checks the competitions' rates every day so they can guarantee their low prices. so our hotels were half price. ♪ h-o-t-w-i-r-e... ♪ hotwire.com
coming up, are we close to a deal? president obama will speak in about 30 minutes. we'll have it live. also joining us delaware senator chris kuhns, jack kingston and maryland democratic congressman elijah cummings talking about the cliff and the deal, maybe. we're also live at new york's presbyterian hospital with the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. andrea mitchell reports is next. we can afford to take an extra trip this year. first boston... then san francisco....
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this deals with the issue of taxes, something that president obama has been talking since 2008. campaigned on this issue in 2012, and the third part will be that march trifecta, when you are going to have both the budget to deal with as well as the debt ceiling and the sequester issue, which will come back again, those are some of the details my colleague, chuck todd, gotten from inside that meeting with the senate democratic caucus. we expect president obama to be briefed on that meeting as well. vice president biden played a key role in negotiations. i am getting details from democratic source who's say the president has played an important role as well. working the phones. apparently last night after vice president biden had spoken to mcconnell, he, the president, a number of staffers met from 1:00 a.m. until 1:45 and sort of hammered out the final details of this deal and then their staffers were up until way past 3:30 this morning. this is something that has been going on overnight while a lot of people have been sloping on the white house and that is the latest we've been
this deals with the issue of taxes, something that president obama has been talking since 2008. campaigned on this issue in 2012, and the third part will be that march trifecta, when you are going to have both the budget to deal with as well as the debt ceiling and the sequester issue, which will come back again, those are some of the details my colleague, chuck todd, gotten from inside that meeting with the senate democratic caucus. we expect president obama to be briefed on that meeting as...
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president obama on friday saying he would accept a deal as long as it does not allow taxes to go up on middle class americans, as long as it extends unemployment insurance and lays the groundwork for deficit reduction in the future. so there's sort of scaling back their expectations. house speaker boehner tried to get an alternative bill passed through the house last week. that failed. the focus shifts to the senate. reid and mcconnell will really be charged with trying to hammer out the fine details of that deal that can make it through the senate and through the house so that is the challenge moving forward. of course, president obama here in hawaii for his christmas cray case. he played some golf over the weekend. also, attended the memorial service for the late senator daniel inouye. thomas, on a much lighter note, he asked me had i taken my flip flops out last hour. i hadn't but i did since my work is wrapping up for you guys, flip flops are out and i'm ready to join those folks on the beach behind me. >> i'm very proud of you. i don't want to jinx this by talking about when you m
president obama on friday saying he would accept a deal as long as it does not allow taxes to go up on middle class americans, as long as it extends unemployment insurance and lays the groundwork for deficit reduction in the future. so there's sort of scaling back their expectations. house speaker boehner tried to get an alternative bill passed through the house last week. that failed. the focus shifts to the senate. reid and mcconnell will really be charged with trying to hammer out the fine...
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last attempt to get a deal before midnight new year's eve. the senate is returning and will be in session tomorrow for the same purpose. senate majority leader harry reid is trying to determine what kind of bill he can get through the senate with limited republican support. meanwhile, governor neil abercrombie of hawaii tonight announced that lieutenant governor brian schatz is as fit to feel the seat of the passed senator daniel inouye. he will leave hawaii for washington tonight and is expected to be sworn in sometime tomorrow afternoon. the democrats are wasting no time in the event harry reid needs the vote to avert the fiscal cliff. but the house? a different story. speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to return to washington. even as that decision is made, how members have 48 hours to get there. house republican leadership released a statement today reading in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert th
last attempt to get a deal before midnight new year's eve. the senate is returning and will be in session tomorrow for the same purpose. senate majority leader harry reid is trying to determine what kind of bill he can get through the senate with limited republican support. meanwhile, governor neil abercrombie of hawaii tonight announced that lieutenant governor brian schatz is as fit to feel the seat of the passed senator daniel inouye. he will leave hawaii for washington tonight and is...
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obama was talking about originally having an infrastructure component in any deal. some spending on infrastructure. some more stimulus for the economy. is that a part of these negotiations right now do you think? and does that -- does it have to be in in for you and the democrats to go awrong with any deal? >>. [ no response ] >> we have an audio issue with the senator. maya, jamele was talking about the relatively low impact in terms of the budget picture of the bush tax cuts and letting go for the wealthy. i think you wanted to make a point there? >> i think it's an important point to say this deficit issue is one we should question a bit 'not because we shouldn't be concerned about the deficit but i think the notion that $800 billion is not a lot of money is a kind of bizarre conversation for most americans. so i think it doesn't sound like a lot of money if we're looking for short-term deficit reduction. it's a heck of a lot of money if we talk about investing in americans. one of the things that we have to have a better conversation about is what actually gets
obama was talking about originally having an infrastructure component in any deal. some spending on infrastructure. some more stimulus for the economy. is that a part of these negotiations right now do you think? and does that -- does it have to be in in for you and the democrats to go awrong with any deal? >>. [ no response ] >> we have an audio issue with the senator. maya, jamele was talking about the relatively low impact in terms of the budget picture of the bush tax cuts and...
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that seemed like we were going to have a deal, no problem. obama won the election. he'll hand them a plan. he'll make some small changes. that's how congress works, of course. pass it and we'll be done. we'll go home for christmas. not so much. president obama did hand them a plan as treasury secretary tim geithner made a special trip all the way to john boehner's office on capitol hill. he delivered the plan to speaker boehner, a plan pretty much identical to the one president obama just won the election on. you might have thought that would have been leading, the problem would have been solved. not so much. >> flabbergasted. i looked at him, you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. >> so when you said you wanted to be led, you just wanted a plan, that was a joke? so the white house agreed, then, no more leading, that was not what their partners in the house of representatives wanted. instead, white house and boehner entered into intense lengthy negotiations. and by the end of them they seemed really close to a deal. the white house had agreed t
that seemed like we were going to have a deal, no problem. obama won the election. he'll hand them a plan. he'll make some small changes. that's how congress works, of course. pass it and we'll be done. we'll go home for christmas. not so much. president obama did hand them a plan as treasury secretary tim geithner made a special trip all the way to john boehner's office on capitol hill. he delivered the plan to speaker boehner, a plan pretty much identical to the one president obama just won...
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obama offered before boehner tried to pass his disastrous plan b. >> again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself. but again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they're going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. >> i know i need one, so here's one for you. here's a friendly user's guide on who has offered real solutions to each of the fiscal cliff issues. on taxes president obama's offer compromise, agreeing to $400,000 as the new cutoff point. speaker boehner tried to sell a million as the dividing line but couldn't get it past his own party. president obama is therefore offering his original position, $250,000 and below. on spending cuts president obama proposed $1.2 trillion, about equal to what he was asking in revenue. boehner passed draconian spending cuts in the house with no revenue component. on extended unemployment insurance, another c
obama offered before boehner tried to pass his disastrous plan b. >> again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself. but again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they're going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. >> i know i need one, so here's...
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obama wants to play hardball. but i think they'll have a different argument later in the year. >> i guess both believe it's better to go over the falls than cut a deal that's going to hurt them at home. tea party people don't respond to boehner or to cantor or mccarthy or any of them. somebody in the next tea party is going to be yelling from the back, you sold us out. i think that's why the tea party is never going to be functional. they don't really respond to getting things done. they respond to anger back home. >> i think 2014 democrats are also aware of these tax increases. they don't want to run in a state like pennsylvania with state like pennsylvania with these tax increases. these tax increases. that's why they want to run -- >> republicans. >> no democrats. that's why they want to run -- >> republicans. >> no democrats. if you're running 2014, you if you're running 2014, you don't want all these hikes on your shoulders. >> with the farmers and ranchers there paying more when it's a million dollars -- >>
obama wants to play hardball. but i think they'll have a different argument later in the year. >> i guess both believe it's better to go over the falls than cut a deal that's going to hurt them at home. tea party people don't respond to boehner or to cantor or mccarthy or any of them. somebody in the next tea party is going to be yelling from the back, you sold us out. i think that's why the tea party is never going to be functional. they don't really respond to getting things done. they...
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that same year, president obama created the simpson/bowles commission, remember that, to find solutions to the debt. the commission came up with a bipartisan plan to cut $4 trillion in deficit cuts, but the deal never gained enough support to be sent to congress. a year later in 2011, another fight emerged in congress over the treasury department's request to raise the debt limit. congress battled for months and the economy suffered, resulting in the u.s. losing its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. we were downgraded. what's next? and as part of a last-ditch compromise to avoid default, both sides agreed to $1 trillion in spending cuts and an additional $1.2 trillion in across-the-board cuts that would kick in at the beginning of 2013 unless a bipartisan super committee made up of politicians from both parties could come up with an agreement. that super committee failed, and of course, the country is now facing those self-imposed, massive cuts to defense spending and other programs. fed chair ben bernanke warned that if these cuts went through, and we're looking at a dea
that same year, president obama created the simpson/bowles commission, remember that, to find solutions to the debt. the commission came up with a bipartisan plan to cut $4 trillion in deficit cuts, but the deal never gained enough support to be sent to congress. a year later in 2011, another fight emerged in congress over the treasury department's request to raise the debt limit. congress battled for months and the economy suffered, resulting in the u.s. losing its aaa credit rating for the...